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Post by Johnny on May 4, 2011 15:50:39 GMT
Maybe that is very unusual. Just wondered if anyone else empathised with the character. I recall at the time, when I was younger being gutted that he died. I think Lorcan Crantich is a great actor, he brings real passion to the character.
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Post by lewisham lion on Jan 5, 2015 1:27:15 GMT
I first saw Cranitch in Empire State, a London film from the 1980s although I don't think he has done an awful lot since Cracker.
Beck is one of those characters you feel could fit easily on The Bill or Sweeney. Good at his job, determined, but unorthodox, and often in trouble with his superiors and other co-workers. Easily one of the most memorable and high profile characters of all of Cracker. I feel his demise from the tower block could have been handled a little better, and while he felt responsible for the death of David Bilborough, the subsequent breakdown (including the rape of Jane Penhaligon) often seemed a little far-fetched or unbelievable.
Other than those minor issues, he was a fine character and often took up a lot of screen presence.
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Post by Admin on Jan 21, 2015 10:55:45 GMT
Other than those minor issues, he was a fine character and often took up a lot of screen presence. I don't think the series was ever really the same once Beck went really. As important as Robbie Coltrane was as Fitz, it was always very much an ensemble piece as well. Once Christopher Eccleston went, then Lorcan Cranitch, a lot of the dymanic of the series within the police was lost. |
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Post by lewisham lion on Aug 16, 2015 3:32:53 GMT
Wonder in retrospect if it was a bit far fetched the way Beck reacted after the murder of Bilborough. Yes he felt partially
responsible for his killing but to rape Penhaligon and go on a downward spiral and jump off the building with David Harvey all because
of it seems at times a little unbelievable. Agree that Beck was such as integral part of the series and it was never the same once the
character departed. Thankfully Geraldine Somerville I think who played Penhaligon, stayed on to the very end of the recognised series
as if she had left also before time, Coltrane would just about have been holding it together on his own.
Speaks an awful lot about the power that some of the above names held regards their screen presence.
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Post by Admin on Nov 3, 2015 15:05:12 GMT
Wonder in retrospect if it was a bit far fetched the way Beck reacted after the murder of Bilborough. Yes he felt partially responsible for his killing but to rape Penhaligon and go on a downward spiral and jump off the building with David Harvey all because of it seems at times a little unbelievable. Agree that Beck was such as integral part of the series and it was never the same once the character departed. Thankfully Geraldine Somerville I think who played Penhaligon, stayed on to the very end of the recognised series as if she had left also before time, Coltrane would just about have been holding it together on his own. Speaks an awful lot about the power that some of the above names held regards their screen presence. The original cast in terms of the police were so key to the success of the series that by the time they lost Eccleston and Cranitch it did start to flag. Not having Geraldine Somerville in either of the specials either proved how important a character Penhaligon was, the 2006 one especially needed her as a link back to the original series. Like I said before, as good as Coltrane's Fitz was the series to me was always a great ensemble drama - within the police especially. That 2006 special with all the new officers and DCI... just no, lol. It wasn't right. At least we still had DCI Wise in White Ghost. |
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Post by lewisham lion on Nov 6, 2015 21:32:13 GMT
I haven't seen beyond the original series that is the end of True Romance in 1995. I think the box set DVD includes the subsequent episodes but never made a purchase to find out. (Or in truth never found it available to buy in stores)
You're right, Cracker without Penhaligon just wouldn't work. They killed off the Jimmy Beck character towards the end, but it occurred at such a late stage of the original series that the damage was minimal. Never quite took to Tomlinson's Wise for some reason - not that he was a worse Detective Chief Inspector than Bilborough, he just didn't seem to fit in.
They don't show the original episodes on ITV2 (or it is 3 or 4) now - not that I need to watch them again, seen every episode back to front - but would still tune in if given the opportunity. There'll never be another show like Cracker, it seems a bit dated after 20 + years but they provided storylines and moments that enthusiasts like us can take away forever.
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Post by Admin on Nov 7, 2015 19:29:35 GMT
They don't show the original episodes on ITV2 (or it is 3 or 4) now - not that I need to watch them again, seen every episode back to front - but would still tune in if given the opportunity. There'll never be another show like Cracker, it seems a bit dated after 20 + years but they provided storylines and moments that enthusiasts like us can take away forever. I think it was ITV2. I am biased but I don't think there will be another show like it either - I agree it does look dated now (especially Series 1 with the whole 90s fashion going on!) but I never ever get bored of watching it. It will always be my all time favourite TV series. And I still think someone who was watching it for the first time now in 2015 will still find it as powerful as it was back in the 90s. As for the specials, I almost view them as separate entities from the complete series now. They were both such let downs sadly :-( |
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Post by lewisham lion on Mar 19, 2016 2:03:11 GMT
Lorcan Cranitch was in The Bill this evening. Took a moment to recognise him as it was 10 years after he appeared in Cracker.
Seemed to have put on a bit of weight and no sign of a moustache to be seen but I was pleasantly surprised to see him involved.
He was playing a DCI (big step up from a DS in Cracker) and was brought in as part of a team to investigate allegations of corrupt officers in the Met. If you have satellite and access to the Drama channel (number 20) then tune this Monday at 11 am to see the repeat from tonight. (He'll also be in the following episode that follows at 12 midday and the repeat later Monday around Midnight)
I'm sure I've seen other past Cracker names such as Emily Joyce, John Simm and even Liam Cunningham in past episodes but no sign of the man himself (Coltrane) as of yet.
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Post by Johnny on Jan 16, 2017 15:19:54 GMT
I haven't seen beyond the original series that is the end of True Romance in 1995. I think the box set DVD includes the subsequent episodes but never made a purchase to find out. (Or in truth never found it available to buy in stores) You're right, Cracker without Penhaligon just wouldn't work. They killed off the Jimmy Beck character towards the end, but it occurred at such a late stage of the original series that the damage was minimal. Never quite took to Tomlinson's Wise for some reason - not that he was a worse Detective Chief Inspector than Bilborough, he just didn't seem to fit in. They don't show the original episodes on ITV2 (or it is 3 or 4) now - not that I need to watch them again, seen every episode back to front - but would still tune in if given the opportunity. There'll never be another show like Cracker, it seems a bit dated after 20 + years but they provided storylines and moments that enthusiasts like us can take away forever. I agree. Everything dates but in quality and intensity I've seen nothing as good. It's good these boards are alive, maybe a group of enthusiasts could influence getting another DVD release, as someone said on here there are some missing scenes. |
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