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Post by Acoustic Trip on Oct 2, 2006 13:12:07 GMT
I enjoyed the special and I certainly didn't miss Panhandle, that new DI (suleh) was a sight for sore eyes!
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Post by di thomas on Oct 2, 2006 21:28:31 GMT
I'm gutted I missed last night, thought it was tonight. Does anyone know if it is being repeated?
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Post by P1 on Oct 3, 2006 8:11:27 GMT
" I certainly didn't miss Panhandle, that new DI (suleh) was a sight for sore eyes!"
Much better looking than Panhandle! I've seen her in lots of other stuff and I thought she was great. Apart from Robbie, she was the only one that stood out for me.
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Post by terry on Oct 3, 2006 14:06:29 GMT
Based on the old adage, 'If it ain't broke don't fix it' I found the new Cracker episode a little disappointing, the pace was too fast, it lacked the intimacy of Fitz relationships, such as his verbal and witty sparringwith taxi drivers and the like, even walking out of his front gate used to be weaved into the story. The police were caricatures and lacked substance. I found the lighting (dark) and the camera work appalling, the constant changes in depth of field, soft focus, the strange effect of having an out of focus image on the left hand side of the screen was also irritating, why was Ricky Tomlinson missing? they could have ignored the age difference from his last appearance, were was Penhaligon? Without becoming too obsessive it was the sum of the parts built up over many episodes which made Cracker so sucessful, do these producers not consult the viewers? all in all, great story let down by the producer/director and cinematograher, this, together with the absence of Paul Abbot as producer who its seems is the only one who understands Crackers success made this 'special' a let down. 'Making of Cracker' ITV3. I thought Chistopher Ecclestons comment with respect to him playing second to Robbie very interesting indeed.. I wonder if there was any bad feeling amongst the other actors?
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Post by Sparky on Oct 5, 2006 2:22:33 GMT
I enjoyed it. As you might expect from Jimmy, it was extremely poignant stuff, he crammed a lot of vitriol into 1 hour and 40 minutes, and he managed to deliver a documentary style angle to the story, by way of the omnipresent media backdrop to the events, without compromising the programme's status as a drama. It had to be concise to deliver all in 1 episode, so, sadly, we lost the minutia of detail to which we were accustomed (the banter with cabbies, the hedonistic whisky and jazz sessions on the couch, etc), but at least it still maintained it's gritty visual appearance: It actually looked and felt like a Cracker story, unlike the previous one off. Aesthetically, I liked the style of the production. I have to agree with the above poster, that the plod were portrayed as caricatures, but I feel Saleh was an exception: She was more than an adequate replacement for Penhalygon, and, should we ever see another story/series, would be perfectly suited as a regular cast member. Once again, hats off to Jimmy McGovern: A true working class hero!
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Post by numpty on Oct 5, 2006 6:17:41 GMT
really enjoyed it and hope they do another. thought the new cast did an adequate job, but saying the new female copper was an adequate replacement for penhaligan...maybe, but that's not the point. panhandle was built up over 3 series, and was an integral part of the show to the police AND fitz. she isn't replaceable, which is why she needs to come back. the guy who played kenny archer though...what a find.
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Post by Admin on Oct 5, 2006 12:26:53 GMT
Hmm, well I know how I feel about this. I'm sure if they do another special or series then they will do their best to get Geraldine Somerville back - too much history with Fitz too ignore, but I know for a fact if she doesn't return and we get some replacement "female sidekick" for Fitz (no disrespect to any of the actresses involved) then I don't think i'll be able to watch it. Panhandle is irreplacable for so many reasons, the character herself and her professional & personal relationship to Fitz. The fact she was virtually the only person in the police he'd listen to, or that she rarely took any crap from him - even stupid stuff like the nickname he gives her added to why they worked so well. And not to mention the on-screen chemistry between Coltrane & Somerville. You only have to watch the final story of Series 3 to realise the importance of her character to Fitz. Their entire relationship was one of the key aspects of the series.
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Post by noky on Oct 23, 2006 2:57:40 GMT
Anyone have info about the US release of the Cracker special? Supposedly it is airing Oct 30, 2006 on BBC America... but the bbcamerica.com website doesn't mention this in their schedule. What's the story?
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Post by lord grade on Apr 11, 2007 12:31:29 GMT
No BAFTA nominations at all? Shameless, The Street and See No Evil are there: 9/11 conspicuous by it's absence.
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Post by Johnny on May 4, 2011 16:01:57 GMT
I think it was right not to have Penhaligon in it, that said, I didn't like the new opening credits(should have kept it simple) or new police much, apart from the woman. I thought the killer Anthony Flanagan, was excellent, great acting. They could have had Skelton and the Scottish guy, and Harriman, if they ever had of carried it on. In fact carrying on with the more minor police characters from the past and developing them more would have worked quite well IMO, better than letting it go stale with too many of the old characters, it was best they went out at the time.
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